The Constitution - 1st Draft

[miccofl]

Here is a preliminary (1st) draft of our written constitution. It will need refinement, discussion and additions, but it's as good a place to start as any. I relied heavily on the US Constitution, revising and rewriting to suit our situation. Discuss away... :doitnow!:

Preamble

We the founding peoples of Catagonia, with each Citizen acting for itself, and in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic order, and secure the blessings of Victory to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this Constitution for all the people of Catagonia


Article I - The Cabinet of Officers

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Cabinet of Officers which consists of the Office of the Overseer, the Office of the Grand Communicator, the Office of the Warlord of the Empire and the Office of the Grand Druid.
Section 1 - The Office of the Overseer

The Overseer is one of the most important and powerful official positions. His area of responsibility covers everything from worker orders to polling for production and everything in between. Specifically: Labor Allocation, Entertainment, Production, Tax Collection, Terraforming and Road and Rail Construction, General Construction, and running the requisite polls. It is also the responsibility of the Overseer to coordinate with the Grand Druid to arrive at an equitable setting for science funds allocation.

Section 2 - The Office of the Grand Communicator

The Grand Communicator is the primary liaison with other teams/civilizations in the game, drafts documents, trade proposals and treaties, monitors foreign embassies (chat), and assists the Head of State in selecting assistants and ambassadors.

Section 3 – The Office of the Warlord of the Empire

The Warlord of the Empire is responsible for creating and maintaining the armed forces of Catagonia and ensuring that they are the most powerful and effective military force in the world. He is responsible for ensuring that obsolete units are upgraded and trained in the latest technology and for their peacetime dispersal throughout the Empire. At the direction of the Chieftain, he may draft units and create battle plans and in the event of war and at the direction of the Chieftain he may execute those orders and wage war upon our enemies.

Section 4 – The Office of the Grand Druid

The Grand Druid is responsible for the technological and cultural growth of Catagonia. He is to gather public opinion to determine and arrive at scientific goals, lobby for scientific and cultural progress (buildings, wonders, etc) and is to coordinate with the Overseer to arrive at the most equitable science funds allocation. It is also the responsibility of the Grand Druid to maintain a historical diary of our civilizations progress for later embellishment.

Section 5 – Elections

The Times and Manner of holding Elections for the Cabinet of Officers shall be as follows: Every fifty turns the people will convine a review of each Officer of the Cabinet. If the review is favorable and the people believe that the Officer has done a proper job, no election will be held for that post and the Officer will retain their position for another 50 turns. If the people believe that it is possible to find a better individual, nominations and declarations of candidacy for that position will be held and if any suitable candidates come forward an election will be held between the current Office holder and the new candidate(s).

Section 6 - Powers of the Officers

The Officers shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of Catagonia; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout Catagonia;

To borrow money on the credit of Catagonia;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Governors throughout Catagonia;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of Catagonia, reserving to the Warlord, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Officers;

Section 7 - Limits on the Cabinet

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by Catagonia: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Cabinet, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.
Article II. - The Executive Branch
Section 1 - The Great Chieftain

The executive Power shall be vested in a Great Chieftain of Catagonia. He shall hold his Office during the Term of fifty turns, and, together with the Sheriff chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

An election will be held among the candidates for the office. The candidate with the greatest number of votes will be the Great Chieftain of Catagonia, the candidate getting the second largest number of votes will be the Sheriff.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the Catagonia, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of Great Chieftain.

In Case of the Removal of the Great Chieftain from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Sheriff, and the Cabinet may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the Great Chieftain and Sheriff, declaring what Officer shall then act as Great Chieftain, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a Great Chieftain shall be elected.

Section 2 - Great Chieftain’s Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, and Appointments
The Great Chieftain shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of Catagonia; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of each member of the Cabinet, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against Catagonia, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the People, to make Treaties, provided fifty-one percent of the People present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Cabinet, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and all other Officers of Catagonia, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Cabinet may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the Great Chieftain alone or in the Officers.

The Great Chieftain shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the course of play until such time as an election may be held.

The Great Chieftain shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of Catagonia.

Section 3 - Disqualification

The Great Chieftain, Sheriff and all Cabinet Officers of Catagonia, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Article III. - The Cities
Section 1 - Each City to Honor all others

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each City to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other City. And the Cabinet may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Section 2 - New Cities

New Cities may be admitted by the Cabinet into Catagonia; but no new Cities shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other City; nor any City be formed by the Junction of two or more Cities, or parts of Cities, without the Consent of the People as well as of the Cabinet.

Section 3 - Democratic government

Catagonia shall guarantee to every City and every citizen a Democratic Form of Government, and shall protect each and every city against Invasion; and on direction of the Great Chieftain, against insurrection.
Article IV – Amendments

Whenever half of the citizens deem it necessary, or upon a decision of the Great Chieftain, they may propose Amendments to this Constitution and upon a vote of two-thirds of the voting citizens, the Amendment shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution.


Article V – Catagonia

This Constitution, and the Laws of Catagonia which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of Catagonia, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the citizens shall be bound thereby.

The Officers of the Cabinet before mentioned, and the Governors of the cities, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust in Catagonia.


Article VI. - Ratification

The Ratification of two-thirds of the voting citizens, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution so ratifying the same.


Article VII - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression.

The elected shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Article VIII - Trial and Punishment.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a the Cabinet, nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of banishment; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of forum access or privilege, without due process of law.


Article IX - Right to speedy trial, confrontation of witnesses.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the forum's membership, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.


Article X - Suffrage

The right of citizens Catagonia to vote shall not be denied or abridged by Catagonia or by any Officer of Catagonia on account of race, sex, creed, sexual preference or real-world nationality.

The right of citizens of Catagonia to vote on any issue or other election, shall not be denied or abridged by Catagonia or any Official by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

[Laser]

Man, it's not even 3000 BC yet. How can we have a constitution already? :p

[miccofl]

Originally posted by Laser
Man, it's not even 3000 BC yet. How can we have a constitution already? :p

I don't know, but it's there. Look, see? It's right above your post... :cute:

[Frozzy]

Draft Bill of Rights:

I: All persons who wish to attain citizenship of Catagonia may not be denied the right to become so, unless it is viewed in the eyes of the Grand Druid the person(s) are unfit to become a citizen.
II: Citizens of Catagonia have the right to vote in private, without any disclosure of their vote.
III: Citizens of Catagonia have the right to freedom of speech, and nobody, higher-ranking or otherwise, may infringe on this right.
IV: No citizen may be punished without reason, nor should s/he be subjected to discrimination on any basis
V: The government is required to give all information to citizens who wish to access it, and as such may not knowingly provide false or misleading information.

[miccofl]

On Amendment I, I don't think that that function should be accorded to the Grand Druid alone. Instead it should be a vote of the entire cabinet to decide.

Amendment II is a function of VB3, it is turned on or off when the poll is made – if passed the private function should always be selected or the poll will be public.

Amendment V; damn, 2430 BC and we already have the FOIA :rolleyes: ;)

[Frozzy]

Amendment I is more of a veto power...

Amendment II is designed for this purpose. People can always make their votes public if they wish.

[Frozzy]

see below

[Frozzy]

Okay, with thanks to miccofl for vB formatting.. for your legal pleasure.

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Bill of Rights:
I: All persons who wish to attain citizenship of Catagonia may not be denied the right to become so, unless it is viewed in the eyes of the Great Chieftain the person(s) are unfit to become a citizen.
II: Citizens of Catagonia have the right to vote in private, without any disclosure of their vote.
III: Citizens of Catagonia have the right to freedom of speech, and nobody, higher-ranking or otherwise, may infringe on this right.
IV: No citizen may be punished without reason, nor should s/he be subjected to discrimination on any basis
V: The government is required to give all information to citizens who wish to access it, and as such may not knowingly provide false or misleading information.

Article I: The Cabinet of Officers

Section A: General Content:
The members of the Cabinet of Officers, whom are elected by the majority of Catagonian citizens in fair and just elections are granted all legislative powers herein, consists of the Office of the Overseer, the Office of the Grand Communicator, the Office of the Warlord of the Empire, and the Office of the Grand Druid.

The times and manners of the election period are as follows:
i) Every 50 "turns" the citizens of Catagonia may vote to judge their confidence in the Minister in a formal poll provided by Jelsoft Enterprise's "vBulletin 3" software. This poll is to follow the rules of confidence polls which is stated in Article III. If 50% or more of those voted believe the minister not to have performed to the expected level required in their opinion, an election is held for that position.
ii) There is a formal election held for this position. There will be 3 days for persons to nominate themselves for (an) available position(s) in a thread organised by the Court. At the conclusion of these days, the Court is to post a formal poll provided by Jelsoft Enterprise's "vBulletin 3" software. This poll is to follow the rules of election polls which is stated in Article III.
All members of the Cabinet of Officers are granted a forum upon election to their respective position.
Notes regarding I.A:
Article I.A.b.ii does not apply to those who have passed their confidence poll.

Section B: The Office of the Overseer
The Office of the Overseer is responsible for Labor Allocation, Entertainment, Production, Tax Collection, Terraforming and Road and Rail Construction, General Construction, and running the requisite polls.

It is also the responsibility of the Overseer to coordinate with the Grand Druid to arrive at an equitable setting for science funds allocation.

Section C: The Office of the Grand Communicator
The Office of the Grand Communicator is responsible for liasing with foreign civilisations, which may or may not involve the drafting of official documents regarding overseas nations, agreements relating to trade, formal treaties, the monitoring of foreign embassies, and the assisting of the Great Chieftain in appointing ambassadors to represent the nation of Catagonia to foreign dignitaries.

The Office of the Grand Communicator is also responsible for informing the citizens of Catagonia of changes in the climate of foreign relations involving Catagonia.

Section D: The Office of the Warlord of the Empire
The Office of the Warlord of the Empire is responsible only for the Catagonian armed forces

The Office of the Warlord of the Empire is required to maintain Catagonia's forces to ensure they make use of the most advanced technologies available.

The Office of the Warlord of the Empire is answerable only to the Great Chieftain, and in the event of a war, the Warlord of the Empire is required to manage the Catagonian armed forces in such a way to ensure a swift, decisive victory against foes, with the backing of the Great Chieftain.

Section E: The Office of the Grand Druid
The Grand Druid is responsible for the upkeeping of Catagonia's technological ability. He is advised to follow the public opinion through polls, either unofficial or official (defined in Article III).

The Grand Druid is also responsible for the cultural growth of Catagonia. He is advised to follow the public opinion through polls, either unofficial or official (defined in Article III).

The Grand Druid is to gather information, and lobby for scientific and cultural progress (buildings, wonders, etc) and is to coordinate with the Overseer to arrive at the most equitable science funds allocation. It is also the responsibility of the Grand Druid to maintain a historical diary of our civilizations progress for later embellishment.

Section F: Powers of the Officers
The Officers shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of Catagonia; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout Catagonia;
To borrow money on the credit of Catagonia;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalisation, and uniform Laws on the subject of Governors throughout Catagonia;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the military to execute the Laws of Catagonia, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the military, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of Catagonia, reserving to the Warlord, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the military according to the discipline prescribed by Officers.

Section G: Limits on the Cabinet
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

Article II: The Executive Branch

Section A: General Content
The executive power shall be vested in a Great Chieftain of Catagonia. He shall hold his office during the term of fifty turns, and, together with the Sheriff chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:
i) An election will be held among the candidates for the office, in accordance with Article IV. The candidate with the greatest number of votes will be the Great Chieftain of Catagonia, the candidate getting the second largest number of votes will be the Sheriff.
In the case of the Great Chieftain being unable to perform his duty for whatever reason, the Sheriff is to perform the duties of the Great Chieftain.
In the event of the Sheriff being unable to perform his duties, the Great Chieftain shall nominate a citizen, not including that of the cabinet of officers, and shall thus become acting Sheriff.
Notes regarding Article II.A: If a citizen becomes acting Great Chieftain or Sheriff, s/he will remain so for the conclusion of the term of 50 terms the elected member was elected for.

Section B: The Great Chieftain's Power upon Military and Cabinet.
The Great Chieftain shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of Catagonia; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of each member of the Cabinet, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices
The Great Chieftain shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the course of play until such time as an election may be held.
The Great Chieftain shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of Catagonia.


Article III: The Supreme Court

Section A: General Content
The Court is composed of 3 persons, whom are elected for 3 terms.
Any citizen, with the exception of the Great Chieftain, may apply to become a judge.
The court's purpose is to uphold the constitution, resolve disputes involving legal interpretation of said constitution, and to run fair and democratic elections.

Section B: Construct of the Court
The Court is composed of three Judges who will serve a three term period of office. There is no limit to the number of terms a Judge may serve.
Each Judge has to be elected by the people in a seperate election poll. Every month one of the Judge positions shall be open for election. This positition shall be the one of the Judge who has reached the end of his term.
When the election of a Judge position starts, the Judge who enters the last term of his period becomes the Senior Justice.
Any citizen may become a judge with the exception of the Great Chieftain

Section C: Cases
The Court can only rule on cases filed. A case may be filed by any citizen who is not a Judge, by publically notifying the Senior Justice. This case must involve a dispute that the Court is empowered to rule upon.
The Senior Justice will either accept or deny the case. This decision cannot be appealed. If the case is denied, the Senior Justice will publically inform the filer of the case, explaining the reason for the denial.
If the case filed deals with the constitutionality of a poll, the judges may make an immediate ruling without the use of a public hearing if all the judges agree with the ruling. The ruling may be challenged by either the owner of the thread or the person who filed the case. A public hearing will then be commenced to hear the case.
Upon acceptance the Senior Justice is to open a thread with the description of the case. A public hearing will be held in that thread lasting three days.
After three days, the thread will be closed and the Senior Justice will organize the Court's ruling. At least two Judges must vote on any ruling that is made. Any ruling is immediately official and final as soon as two Judges have voted in favour of it.
If a case is brought to the court involving a Judge, the Great Chieftain is required to step in in place of affected Judge. If a Judge is unable to perform his duty for a short period of time, the Great Chieftain will replace the Judge for said period.

Section D: Rights & Responsibilities
The Court may make its own rules of procedure and enforce them upon citizens who are before it, so long as such rules are in accordance with the constitution.
The Court will keep a record of all disputes, issues, and hearings before the Court. The Court will also keep a public record of the Constitution in its current form.
The Court has no power to hand out punishments to those on trial, though it is required to make a recommendation at the end of each trial.
i) The Court may recommend to the Great Chieftain a citizen may not run for a future government post.
ii) The Court may recommend that a member of the Cabinet of Officers, or the Exectutive Branch, face impeachment. If this is so, the Court is required to follow Article V of this constitution
The Court does reserve the power to declare any poll null and void.
The Court is responsible for organising, as stated in Article I Subsection A.b.ii.

Article IV: Polling Rules

Section A: General Content
A "poll" is a thread containing a poll which citizens may vote in.
There are 4 types of poll: Electoral, Official, Amendment, and Unofficial
Any poll which is not unofficial, and violates any part of this constitution, shall be declared null and void.
The Court has the right to declare polls null and void.

Section B: Structure of Polls
The first post of all polls must contain the following elements:
i) A clear and unbiased explanation of the question and the answers, if needed;
ii) Expiration date, if applicable;
iii) Links to related threads or other information sources, if any;
iv) Type (see Section 3) and purpose of the poll (for example: information gathering or decision making).
Yes/No polls must have three options of which only one can be chosen. The three options must be:
i) Yes, meaning that the voter agrees with what was stated in the poll;
ii) No, meaning that the voter does not agree with what was stated in the poll;
iii) Abstain, meaning that the voter does not have a specific opinion on what was stated in the poll or does not wish to express it. Abstain votes may not be considered to say anything about what was stated in the poll.
Polls in which there are more than one option to choose from must have the following features:
i) More than two choices in which there is no conflicting choice (e.g. two choice meaning almost the same decision).
ii) Abstain, meaning that the voter does not have a specific opinion on what was stated in the poll or does not wish to express it. Abstain votes may not be considered to say anything about what was stated in the poll.
Any poll which allows the voter to select more than one option are forbidden. For polls requiring the voter to select more than one option, it is required for two or more polls to be created, depending on the nature of the poll.

Section C: Official Polls
Official Polls may only be created by members of the Cabinet of Officers, which is regarding their field of authority
Official Polls are bound to the rules stated in Article III Section B
The government official who started the poll may or may not follow the opinion of the majority of the voters. In case (s)he does not follow what was decided, (s)he must make this decision public. Failure to do so will be regarded withholding of information, as defined in the Bill of Rights.
Official polls shall only expire at a time chosen by the officer who opened the poll. And if the poll has an expiring day the same officer who started it must include this information in the first post.

Section D: Amendment Polls
These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the cabinet of officers, and must be used to propose Amendments to this Constitution.
They have to be Yes/No polls.
Amendments may change/append/override any existing Laws, judicial decisions regarding Laws or any part of the Constitution.
Amendments of the Constitution must be recorded by the Court. The person who proposed an Amendment that has been passed must inform the Court of this as soon as possible.
If a majority of those voted pass the amendment, the amendment is then regarded as law.
Amendment polls shall expire in five days and the citzen who started the poll must include the expiring day in its first post.

Section E: Electoral polls:
These polls must be started by the Court. They serve to elect the persons who will fulfill the official positions of the executive and judicial branches of the government, as defined in Article I and Article III.
They have to be multiple choice polls with only the names of the candidates as options. They can only be decision-making polls, they cannot be used for not information gathering.
Election polls shall expire in five days and the Court must include the expiration time in the first post of the poll.

Section F: Unofficial polls:
These polls can be started by any Citizen, including members of the government.
They may only exist to debate or gather information. Their outcome should not be used by the president to make choices during game play, but may be taken into account by the ministers when providing instructions for the president.
Unofficial polls are the only polls in which more than one option may be chosen from the list of options.
They do not have to follow all the rules specified in this Article. However, rules specified in the Bill of Rights must still be obeyed.

Article V: Impeachments & Resignations

Section A: Impeachments
Any Citizen may bring the case of impeachment of an elected Minister, President, or Judge to a member of the Court.
The Court shall review the allegations made, allow an answer by the accused, and by a vote determine if there are proper and legal grounds to hold a Resolution poll to decide on impeachment. If the accusations are found to be without legal merit, the allegations shall be dismissed.
Should a member of the Court be the subject of impeachment, he shall not take part in the decision by The Court. The President shall sit in this Court member place for the sole determination of whether the impeachment has merit, and shall be considered a “Judge” for that vote only.
If the Court decides there are grounds for impeachment, it shall start a poll in which it clearly states the person to be impeached and outlines the events that led to the request for impeachment. If the impeachment is confirmed by a majority of the voters in the poll, the officer in question shall be removed from the office, losing all rights and responsibilities thereof.
The Court may open nominations for a replacement for the impeached official at any time while the impeachment poll is open if it considers that the impeachment is likely to occur. In this case, the nomination thread must clearly state that the election is conditional on the impeachment of the official.
If the impeachment poll closes and the officer is impeached and nominations have not yet begun, then the Court must start them as soon as possible.
The Great Chieftain may select a willing citizen to fill that office until a replacement is elected. The chosen citizen will have the word temporary as a prefix to the name of their office.

Section B: Resignations
Any officer may announce his desire to resign at any time.
The officer who wishes to resign shall be requested to remain in office until a replacement is found.
If the officer is unwilling to remain in office, then the Court may choose a willing citizen to fill that office until a replacement is elected. The chosen citizen will have the word acting as a prefix to the name of their office.

[miccofl]

Impressive document :b: Lets give it a few days for discussions and we shoulc be able to put this to a vote.

[Frozzy]

I hope people actually discuss it this time...

[Furloaf]

That's very long and I am tired. I'll read it later.

(Just like the real U.S. Constitution, some people are too lazy to read it...)

[Trip]

I'll take a look this weekend when I have more brain cells. :eek: